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  • No Place for Me There
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  • Every Dark Messiah and Well-Intentioned Extremist knows that Utopia Justifies the Means... but a few of them know that their own methods for acquiring such a utopia would make it impossible to sustain. Essentially, this trope occurs when a character building a Utopia with questionable methodology realizes (or is aware from the beginning) that they themselves would be unable to exist in the world that they are trying to create. Examples of No Place for Me There include:
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  • Every Dark Messiah and Well-Intentioned Extremist knows that Utopia Justifies the Means... but a few of them know that their own methods for acquiring such a utopia would make it impossible to sustain. Essentially, this trope occurs when a character building a Utopia with questionable methodology realizes (or is aware from the beginning) that they themselves would be unable to exist in the world that they are trying to create. Depending on the character, this realization/knowledge can lead to an inevitable Heroic Sacrifice at the end, or to Jumping Off the Slippery Slope if not a full Face Heel Turn (the latter two are generally from the realization version). If the character continues to pursue the goal in spite of the fact that they themselves will not benefit from it, they are almost always a hero. Distinct from Necessarily Evil in that their actions may not be "evil", only contrasting with the ideals that they are attempting to create: they could be perfectly heroic, at least from the perspective of the heroes. Oftentimes The Hero will pursue such a goal even after he becomes aware of this, to improve the world for the next generation/the Protectorate or True Companions/other stock hero motive here. This trope is more frequent amongst heroes than villains, but a villain with No Place For Me There is completely possible; expect them to be an Anti-Villain, Well-Intentioned Extremist, Dark Messiah, Worthy Opponent, or any combination of the previous. Compare Heel Realization and Necessarily Evil, compare/contrast Utopia Justifies the Means. A Hunter of His Own Kind who isn't hypocritical may take this option too. Examples of No Place for Me There include: