| abstract | - There is some debate if we should have an article on this fellow. I declined a speedy and a PROD, but given the desire for deletion I thought I'd put it up at AfD. A news search would seem to indicate that he meets WP:N but it's not clear he meets WP:CRIME. Hobit (talk) 18:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:29, 12 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
* Delete Ponte does not meet WP:CRIME, he is only known for owning a carting company. --Vic49 (talk) 21:37, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
* Comment
* Significant coverage: NY Daily News, NY Times
* Less significant but non-trivial coverage: NY Daily News (again), Forgotten NY, CNN, NYmag. I'd say he meets WP:N. I'm less sure of WP:CRIME. Hobit (talk) 17:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
* Comment your references same the same thing "Ponte was in the carting industry". You say he meets WP:N under what criteria in Wikipedia:Notability (people)? --Vic49 (talk) 18:42, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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* WP:N simply requires multiple reliable and independent sources that have a reasonable degree of detail. That bar is easily met here. There is a significant amount of reporting on the subject (as shown above). Hobit (talk) 01:12, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
* Delete Ponte did own the largest carting company in NYC, which was involved in a well publicized battle with outside competitors. However, there is very little source information on Ponte's individual role in all this. He might have been a front man for someone else. Don't think he meets the notability or crime criteria. 74.69.41.13 (talk) 00:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
* But he does seem to meet WP:N, yes? Hobit (talk) 01:12, 14 June 2012 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 01:30, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
* Delete. Does not meet WP:CRIME and not notable. - DonCalo (talk) 07:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
* I still vote Delete --Vic49 (talk) 21:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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