| rdfs:comment | - I was going to create an article about the Kirk v. Picard screenwriting contest on FanLib, but I wasn't sure if it belongs here or in the Expanded Universe Wiki. The contest was considered official and sponsored by CBS, but I'm not sure if that's in the realm of "licensed" or not. It seems like a gray area, so I thought I'd ask. cvalin 06:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC) Just to note, the first part of the winning story was published in an issue of the Star Trek Magazine last year. --8of5 16:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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| abstract | - I was going to create an article about the Kirk v. Picard screenwriting contest on FanLib, but I wasn't sure if it belongs here or in the Expanded Universe Wiki. The contest was considered official and sponsored by CBS, but I'm not sure if that's in the realm of "licensed" or not. It seems like a gray area, so I thought I'd ask. cvalin 06:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC) I'm not familiar with the contest, but the story would only be considered to be "licensed" (our standard for inclusion here) if it was published by CBS-Paramount (or a recognized current licensee, like Pocket or Decipher) in a magazine, book, or website. The unpublished submissions would fall under "expanded universe" (i.e. "fan fiction") -- Captain MKB 14:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC) Thanks! I think this would fall under "published on a website:" [1] . The contest, updates, and winners were announced at StarTrek.com as well. If you agree, I'll go ahead and create the article. cvalin 15:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC) I'm sorry, I should have been more clear -- we can't include it here until and unless the story is published in its entirety on an official Star Trek site, like StarTrek.com. The operative part of that sentence above was "published by CBS-Paramount ... (on a) website". -- Captain MKB 15:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC) Okay, got it. I misunderstood because it was officially sanctioned and sponsored by CBS even though it was published at a fan fiction site. Thanks for clearing it up. I'll create it over at the expanded universe wiki. cvalin 16:57, 21 February 2008 (UTC) Just to note, the first part of the winning story was published in an issue of the Star Trek Magazine last year. --8of5 16:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC) I didn't know that. Does that make it qualify? I realize Captainmike said "In its entirety" and I hate to keep harping on this, but it seems a little more "official" than the material at the expanded universe wiki, even though it doesn't seem to fit perfectly over here, either. Thanks. cvalin 17:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC) If it's a partial story that was in the magazine, we are limited to only referencing the parts of the particular story that were published in the magazine -- the unpublished story and the unpublished parts of the published story are what are off limits here on MB. -- Captain MKB 19:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC) That would be a bit messy... and it's not as if something being published and Star Trek is always enough anyways, deleted scenes are offically released on dvd but they dont count. --8of5 21:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Okay, I was going to give up (and I already created the article at the expanded universe wiki anyway), but if I could just get you to read one thing from the StarTrek.com website (here [2]) and you still don't consider it "licensed," I promise I won't say another word about it. Thanks again, and I'm sorry...I don't really mean to be a pain about this. cvalin 06:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC) No pain, it gives us a chance to be clear -- the stories themselves are not part of what we are doing here, because they are not licensed by Paramount to be sold in books or published in a manner that matches any other of our included sources -- just because they sponsor a contest, it does not constitute a license for the publication of the stories submitted (this is what we mean by "licensed" -- Paramount grants a license for things to be sold with the name "Star Trek"). I hope that clarifies things. Have you followed the "Strange New Worlds" contest? -- there were many many stories submitted, but the only ones we really reference here are the ones that were published in the Strange New Worlds series of books. -- Captain MKB 16:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC) Gotcha. Thanks so much for you patience and assistance! cvalin 03:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
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